Scarlet and Canon 5D Mark II Comparison
11.19.2010 RED Epic Vs 5D MkII
Ivan Kovax has posted some pics comparing RED’s Epic and the Canon 5D Mark II. The camera on the far right is the Nikon D90.
08.16.2009 Scarlet Vs 5D MkII
Andrew Walker just posted some pictures on www.reduser.net from the Local 695′s RED Day comparing the Canon 5D Mark II and the Scarlet prototype. Keep in mind RED only shows prototypes 2 generations behind what they are currently working on so the final shape will likely be somewhat different.
The general size is probably pretty close to the final design, though. The RED Pro Prime is at the large end of what you would most likely using with the Scarlet.
Here is a nice picture of the Scarlet without a lens attached:
And one of the Scarlet from the back:
Could a Red Scarlet 3k file be uploaded into a 2008 MACBOOK 2.0 – and would the file work ?
Question. Would it work In say IMOVIES… ? Or just Final Cut… ? Not even Final Cut ?
I know this sounds like a strange question but I wanna know if this type of camera can be used by me, my mother and my pet monkey ? The reason… I just wanna know how compatible the files are with simple software and how accessible this camera is to people without loads of equipment ?
Will this camera be available to buy from stores In Tokyo ?
Thanks.
Hi Taktak, Scarlet will shoot digital files just like a DSLR that can be dragged and dropped to any computer. The RAW file codec is REDCODE which is supported by many editing programs including the latest versions of Final Cut Pro, Vegas 9, and Adobe Premiere and After Effects. As far as I know Apple has not added REDCODE support to iMovie yet, although they may at some point in the future. I have used Adobe Premiere and you can easily edit full resolution REDCODE RAW files on a regular laptop.
RED’s original plan was to sell the fixed lens Scarlet at major camera retail stores around the world so there is a good chance you will be able to purchase one in Tokyo.
When will the RED SCARLET 3k version be released ? Any new updates ? STill gonna be sold in MAJOR stores around the world ? Hope so ! A t o d e n e !
Jim Jannard is announcing the release schedule for all of the DSMC cameras (including the Scarlet 3k fixed and cinema) on Oct. 30th. Hopefully they will also update us on their mass production capabilities for the 3k fixed Scarlet. Only two more weeks to wait!
Thanks. I`m actually interested In buying the next one up.. with the body.. and the changeable lens capability… I hope this comes to Japan too ! Thank you for your help. Looking forward OCT 31 !
About how much will Scarlet weigh? I realize the weight will vary with the different component combinations, but with the basic or standard setup, what is the approx. weight?
Jarred Land says at the very end of the video on this page http://www.camerarentalz.com/epic-x-ibc-09/ that the Epic-X brain will weigh about 6 lbs. Scarlet brains are a bit thinner so they could weigh anywhere from 5 – 5.5 lbs. I would guess a setup with a few modules would weigh around 10 – 12 lbs. Hopefully they will announce weights on Oct. 30th as well. RED equipment is all metal and incredibly solid so they definitely aren’t light weight cameras.
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what is the bit depth per channel for the red scarlet? 10bit?12bit? or 14bit?how many stops?
does red scarlet supported detatchable lenses?
and what does it use for storing the image data? harddrive or solidstate flash memory?
and is that sub 3000$ include a lense or is this the price for the body alone?
does it shoot in progressive mode?
if there is anyone outthere with experience with this thing,please share,possibly a list of features
would be nice.am a Kenyan dude who does music videos and documentaries,and i want to know
whether this scarlet beats the hvr-zu1.
Hi Karanja, both Scarlet and Epic will be 15bit. RED is still tweaking the sensor so we don’t know how many stops there will be. They are saying about 1 1/2 more then on the RED One cameras at this point in development. All of the Epics and Scarlets support interchangeable mounts and lenses except for the fixed 8x zoom 2/3″ Scarlet. RED is working on allowing us to record to many different storage options but currently you can record to CF cards, RED Drives (hard drive), and RED RAM. Prices may have gone up slightly but the previously announced price of $2,500 is for the brain only. The fixed lens Scarlet shooting kit is targeted around $4k. All shooting modes on RED cameras are progressive.
Hey Justin,
Probably a goofy question, but how does a camera like this compare to say, a Sony NXCAM HXR-NX5U? I am considering the Scarlet fixed kit – but i didn’t see a viewfinder. What exactly does the Scarlet 3K come with? What additional accessories would i have to purchase in order to achieve basic still / video shooting?
Plus I thought i read somewhere that the 8x Fixed can be adapted to a Nikkor/Canon lens. I heard of the RED ONE years ago, but I’m new to the Scarlet/Epic systems so forgive my lack of knowledge as i am currently researching it intensively.
And one more question…how does the “fixed” lens on the Scarlet compare to a 35mm zoom factor? What’s the equivalent? Does the lens have focus, zoom and aperture rings like the HD cams out there?
Thanks!
Shawn
The most obvious differences between the HXR-NX5U and the Scarlet are the Scarlet has a much larger sensor (2/3″ compared to the Sony’s 1/3″) and resolution (3k compared to the Sony’s 1.9k). On top of that Scarlet goes up to 150fps (Sony maxes out at 60ps), Scarlet records to a RAW format (the Sony records 4:2:2) and Scarlet is modular meaning you can stay simple or add as many features as you want.
Last we heard the $4,750 fixed Scarlet kit came with Side CF module, REDmote, 2.8? Touchscreen LCD, REDVOLT battery and travel charger. All you need to be up and shooting with this is a 16gb CF card ($300). There is an EVF in the DSMC lineup but it is professional quality and costs $3,200.
The fixed zoom is not removable so you can’t replace it with Nikkor or Canon lenses. I suppose you could use something like the Redrock M2 35mm adapter to put Nikkor and Canon lenses on front of the fixed zoom but at that price you might as well buy the S35 Scarlet. Maybe you were thinking of the 2/3″ Cinema Scarlet ($2,750) that takes pretty much any lens.
Compared to S35mm film the Scarlet’s crop factor is 2.47. Compared to full frame 35mm still film the crop factor is 3.56. This means all of your S35mm and Nikkor/Canon lenses become telephoto on the 2/3″ Scarlet.
The 8x fixed lens on the Scarlet has one focus ring that can be set to either focus, zoom or aperture as you are shooting.
could someone tell the exact date of launch of Scarlet. and i wanna know how to book scarlet. i’m very eager to buy this one
RED is currently beta testing the Epic/Scarlet prototype and will not commit to a release date at this point. I would not count on Scarlet shipping in 2010. Watch this site and as soon as RED announces a ship date we will post it.
If I were to place three camera’s side by side- Red One, Scarlet and Panavision and shot wet street night and bright day footage and fired them up onto a big screen- what would be the difference?
Are we talking all that much difference?
Can you give me some ideas as to what type of projects I could plan for the Scarlet’s use?
Could I use the Scarlet for a feature film?
I have used the Red One in testing and OMG we shot and 5 minutes later had it up on the full sized screen and I was stunned. It looked like a full on Batman / Hollywood production yet the indoor light was from a $40 mini spot.
I will assume you are talking about the Panavision “Genesis” and the 3k version of Scarlet (it comes in 5k and 6k as well). The most obvious difference between the 3 cameras is resolution. The Genesis has 1,920 horizontal pixels, the Scarlet 3,000 and the RED One 4,000. To really see this resolution difference you would have to be using a 4k projector, though. Another big difference is going to be dynamic range. The Genesis has about 11 stops of latitude, the RED One with the Mysterium-X about 12 and the Scarlet and Epic using HDRx get about 18 stops. That 18 stops blows anything else out of the water (film at best has 15 stops) and would be a very noticeable difference in bright day footage. If we are talking about the 3k 2/3″ Scarlet we have to take into consideration depth of field. Both the RED One and Genesis use S35 sensors which are much larger then 2/3″ and give you the option of much shallower depth of field. You would have to set the aperture to t1.5 on the Scarlet to match the depth of field and angle of view of the RED One or Genesis at t4. If you are using the 5k S35 Scarlet the depth of field would be the same across all 3 cameras.
The 3k Scarlet will be more then capable of shooting a major feature film. These Hollywood films were all shot on a 2/3″ sensor: